{"id":186,"date":"1966-01-01T00:06:15","date_gmt":"1966-01-01T00:06:15","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/la-presse-anarchiste.net\/index.php\/2007\/02\/26\/masochiste\/"},"modified":"2024-04-22T06:36:44","modified_gmt":"2024-04-22T06:36:44","slug":"masochiste","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/la-presse-anarchiste.net\/index.php\/1966\/01\/01\/masochiste\/","title":{"rendered":"Masochiste&nbsp;?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"pdfprnt-buttons pdfprnt-buttons-post pdfprnt-top-right\"><a href=\"https:\/\/la-presse-anarchiste.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/186?print=pdf\" class=\"pdfprnt-button pdfprnt-button-pdf\" target=\"_blank\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/la-presse-anarchiste.net\/wp-content\/plugins\/pdf-print\/images\/pdf.png\" alt=\"image_pdf\" title=\"Afficher le PDF\"><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/la-presse-anarchiste.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/186?print=print\" class=\"pdfprnt-button pdfprnt-button-print\" target=\"_blank\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/la-presse-anarchiste.net\/wp-content\/plugins\/pdf-print\/images\/print.png\" alt=\"image_print\" title=\"Contenu imprim\u00e9\"><\/a><\/div><p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Face \u00e0 l\u2019im\u00adpor\u00adtance de l\u2019empreinte reli\u00adgieuse sur la non-vio\u00adlence, il \u00e9tait \u00e9vident que les anar\u00adchistes sen\u00adsi\u00adbi\u00adli\u00ads\u00e9s par la ques\u00adtion recherchent des moti\u00adva\u00adtions d\u00e9ga\u00adg\u00e9es de tout mys\u00adti\u00adcisme et ana\u00adlysent les condi\u00adtions d\u2019une \u00ab&nbsp;non-vio\u00adlence sp\u00e9\u00adci\u00adfi\u00adque\u00adment anar\u00adchiste&nbsp;\u00bb. Et le sou\u00adci de Laly (voir les pr\u00e9\u00adc\u00e9\u00addents num\u00e9\u00adros) de pr\u00e9\u00adser\u00adver sa vie qui est une, limi\u00adt\u00e9e et sans l\u2019es\u00adpoir de la vie \u00e9ter\u00adnelle est abso\u00adlu\u00adment logique&nbsp;; d\u2019au\u00adtant plus que Laly appar\u00adtient \u00e0 la ten\u00addance de l\u2019a\u00adnar\u00adchisme qui a le plus insis\u00adt\u00e9 sur le \u00ab&nbsp;vivre sa vie&nbsp;\u00bb, le pr\u00e9\u00adsen\u00adt\u00e9isme&nbsp;: l\u2019in\u00addi\u00advi\u00addua\u00adlisme anarchiste.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Mais l\u2019in\u00addi\u00advi\u00addua\u00adlisme farouche n\u2019est pas tout l\u2019a\u00adnar\u00adchisme, et m\u00eame l\u2019in\u00addi\u00advi\u00addua\u00adlisme n\u2019im\u00adplique pas cette garan\u00adtie per\u00adma\u00adnente de ne vou\u00adloir rien ris\u00adquer de sa vie&nbsp;; le dan\u00adger m\u00eame est une condi\u00adtion du plus grand \u00e9pa\u00adnouis\u00adse\u00adment de l\u2019individu.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u00c0 la limite, cette crainte de l\u2019\u00e9\u00adpreuve serait carac\u00adt\u00e9\u00adris\u00adtique d\u2019un cer\u00adtain confor\u00admisme, go\u00fb\u00adtant le sta\u00adtu quo de la s\u00e9cu\u00adri\u00adt\u00e9 bour\u00adgeoise, lais\u00adsant aux autres la bagarre.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Pour\u00adtant l\u2019ar\u00adgu\u00adment de Laly m\u00e9rite atten\u00adtion dans la mesure o\u00f9 il nous garde de trop d\u2019exal\u00adta\u00adtion et nous main\u00adtient la t\u00eate un peu plus froide. Mais, d\u2019autre part, la lutte vio\u00adlente ou non vio\u00adlente est n\u00e9ces\u00adsaire&nbsp;; vio\u00adlente ou non vio\u00adlente, la lutte est tou\u00adjours sanc\u00adtion\u00adn\u00e9e d\u2019en\u00adnuis divers, de coups et quel\u00adque\u00adfois de la mort. Est-il plus maso\u00adchiste de lut\u00adter non vio\u00adlem\u00adment que vio\u00adlem\u00adment&nbsp;? Qui veut bien se char\u00adger d\u2019ad\u00addi\u00adtion\u00adner les souf\u00adfrances et les&nbsp;morts&nbsp;?<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Il y a incom\u00adpa\u00adti\u00adbi\u00adli\u00adt\u00e9 entre l\u2019ac\u00adtion non vio\u00adlente et le d\u00e9sir de ne rien ris\u00adquer&nbsp;: Laly peut-il pen\u00adser que Lecoin je\u00fb\u00adnant \u00e0 mort pour le sta\u00adtut des objec\u00adteurs de conscience avait pr\u00e9\u00advu sa \u00ab&nbsp;limite de s\u00e9cu\u00adri\u00adt\u00e9&nbsp;\u00bb&nbsp;? Ce serait une offense gra\u00adtuite. Lecoin \u00e9tait pr\u00eat \u00e0 mou\u00adrir&nbsp;; le gou\u00adver\u00adne\u00adment en avait plei\u00adne\u00adment conscience et n\u2019y tenait pas, aus\u00adsi a\u2011t-il c\u00e9d\u00e9.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Je sui\u00advrais pour\u00adtant Laly s\u2019il disait que l\u2019on peut s\u2019en\u00adga\u00adger \u00e0 des degr\u00e9s dif\u00adf\u00e9\u00adrents&nbsp;: nous ne sommes pas tou\u00adjours pr\u00eats \u00e0 mou\u00adrir, pr\u00eats \u00e0 subir la pri\u00adson, f\u00fbt-ce pour un jour. Nous ne nous sen\u00adtons pas tou\u00adjours concer\u00adn\u00e9s, \u00e0 tort ou \u00e0 rai\u00adson. Et les risques que l\u2019on choi\u00adsit sont \u00e0 la mesure du cou\u00adrage, fonc\u00adtion de la cause et du moment. Il faut que les choses soient bien nettes, et je refu\u00adse\u00adrais de m\u2019en\u00adga\u00adger avec un com\u00adpa\u00adgnon que je sau\u00adrais pr\u00eat \u00e0 l\u00e2cher prise au moment le plus dif\u00adfi\u00adcile qui serait \u00ab&nbsp;sa limite de s\u00e9curit\u00e9&nbsp;\u00bb.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Que Lely ne pense pas trom\u00adper l\u2019ad\u00adver\u00adsaire (ici le gou\u00adver\u00adne\u00adment) sur ce point, celui-ci lui lais\u00adse\u00adra pas\u00adser sa limite de s\u00e9cu\u00adri\u00adt\u00e9 et bien au-del\u00e0. Comp\u00adtons plus sur la t\u00e9na\u00adci\u00adt\u00e9 que sur la ruse pour vaincre. Il faut savoir que la non-vio\u00adlence demande un enga\u00adge\u00adment qui, je le r\u00e9p\u00e8te, peut se situer \u00e0 des degr\u00e9s divers.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Quant au maso\u00adchisme de Lan\u00adza del Vas\u00adto, c\u2019est une mau\u00advaise pol\u00e9\u00admique. S\u2019il nous fal\u00adlait l\u2019at\u00adta\u00adquer nous le pour\u00adrions en stig\u00adma\u00adti\u00adsant l\u2019\u00c9\u00adglise catho\u00adlique dans ce qu\u2019elle a de r\u00e9ac\u00adtion\u00adnaire, d\u2019au\u00adto\u00adri\u00adtaire et de violent, mais il y a des chances pour qu\u2019il soit d\u2019ac\u00adcord avec nous sur plus d\u2019un point, et des plus importants.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Alors?\u2026<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">S\u2019il faut mettre en cause la non-vio\u00adlence, c\u2019est sur son effi\u00adca\u00adci\u00adt\u00e9 et si l\u2019on tient \u00e0 d\u00e9ga\u00adger une sp\u00e9\u00adci\u00adfi\u00adci\u00adt\u00e9 liber\u00adtaire n\u2019y a\u2011t-il pas suf\u00adfi\u00adsam\u00adment d\u2019autres res\u00adsources dans l\u2019u\u00adni\u00adver\u00adsa\u00adli\u00adt\u00e9 de l\u2019a\u00adnar\u00adchisme&nbsp;? Sinon je deman\u00adde\u00adrais si l\u2019on peut, \u00e9cra\u00ads\u00e9s entre le tota\u00adli\u00adta\u00adrisme com\u00admu\u00adniste et le capi\u00adta\u00adlisme, envi\u00adsa\u00adger encore d\u2019a\u00adgir sans \u00eatre maso\u00adchistes&nbsp;: nous avons tou\u00adjours \u00e9t\u00e9 vaincus.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\">Andr\u00e9 Ber\u00adnard<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Face \u00e0 l\u2019im\u00adpor\u00adtance de l\u2019empreinte reli\u00adgieuse sur la non-vio\u00ad\u00adlence, il \u00e9tait \u00e9vident que les anar\u00adchistes sen\u00adsi\u00adbi\u00adli\u00ads\u00e9s par la ques\u00adtion recherchent des moti\u00adva\u00adtions d\u00e9ga\u00adg\u00e9es de tout mys\u00adti\u00adcisme et ana\u00adlysent les condi\u00adtions d\u2019une \u00ab&nbsp;non-vio\u00ad\u00adlence sp\u00e9\u00adci\u00adfi\u00adque\u00adment anar\u00adchiste&nbsp;\u00bb. Et le sou\u00adci de Laly (voir les pr\u00e9\u00adc\u00e9\u00addents num\u00e9\u00adros) de pr\u00e9\u00adser\u00adver sa vie qui est une, limi\u00adt\u00e9e et sans l\u2019es\u00adpoir&nbsp;de&nbsp;[\u2026]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":71,"featured_media":5157,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"wp-custom-template-page-d-article","format":"standard","meta":{"wp_typography_post_enhancements_disabled":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[20],"tags":[],"ppma_author":[738],"class_list":["post-186","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-anarchisme-et-non-violence-na3-janvier-1966"],"authors":[{"term_id":738,"user_id":71,"is_guest":0,"slug":"andre-bernard","display_name":"Andr\u00e9 Bernard","avatar_url":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/6f0048715177552db786585459b7543efde1d8539638606dba918cb5408bdb04?s=96&d=mm&r=g","author_category":"","user_url":"","last_name":"Bernard","first_name":"Andr\u00e9","job_title":"","description":""}],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/la-presse-anarchiste.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/186","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/la-presse-anarchiste.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/la-presse-anarchiste.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/la-presse-anarchiste.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/71"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/la-presse-anarchiste.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=186"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/la-presse-anarchiste.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/186\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":7032,"href":"https:\/\/la-presse-anarchiste.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/186\/revisions\/7032"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/la-presse-anarchiste.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/5157"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/la-presse-anarchiste.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=186"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/la-presse-anarchiste.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=186"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/la-presse-anarchiste.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=186"},{"taxonomy":"author","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/la-presse-anarchiste.net\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/ppma_author?post=186"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}